Originally Posted by Our Virus

Spamming bsurge on recharge is hardly a rhythm

Originally Posted by Coast

thats not what i ment, u can leave ur troll in the cave next time

Originally Posted by lursey

so abusing interrupt is ok, but not abusing cancel casting..if you really want to see it that way more clearly.

Originally Posted by lursey

it wasn't really an exploit when players can cancel casting without consuming a use under a glyph.... it is just because a dumb mesmer can't interrupt the glyph...

Originally Posted by The Drunkard

Exactly how are people abusing interrupts? If I load my monk with 8 enchantments, am I abusing enchantments? By that logic I must be abusing stances if I load 8 onto my bar, right?


So I'm guessing your problem is because of mesmers then, and not the other classes? Do you know what a interrupt bot is?

Originally Posted by lursey

if abusing is not a problem, then making skill cancelling without en will not be a problem...

what's the point of asking me about interrupt bot?
you mean if skill canceling is more viable then interrupt bot will be a bigger or lessor problem, I don't really understand the question.

no, skill cancelling is for all class, interrupt skills are from the skill set of mesmer/ranger...

I just think skill canceling needs to be viable.. because once you do it.. it has a double cost, and making it not viable, players might as well don't use skill cancelling and just casting through it.. the cost of using skill cancelling is bigger than the cost of not using it.

Originally Posted by lursey

cancel cast now shelter 2 times is 50 en...
cancel cast 2 times guardian is 10 en....and if you can't cast the guardian on time due to cancel casting... then you may have already been kd locked, or spike to the death..

Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

PvE tard. Simple as that.

IT'S ALREADY VIABLE - Correct cancel means you juke their rupts. It means you were able to get your skill off and they are forced to wait 15+ seconds for recharge. SO WHAT if it costed you double energy? you were able to get the skill off, THAT is the gamble you take. It is the exact same gamble you take as the rupter too.

You still don't understand the fact that if you make it cheaper to cancel cast EVERYONE WILL CANCEL UNTIL THEIR SKILL GETS A FAST CAST. It will mean you do not make it viable, but you make it exploitable. 50% energy cost still means 5 energy skills will only cost 2 energy to cancel (which means for free since you have 4 pips of regen). That turns the table over and means rupts are useless.

I'm sick of this ignorant child thinking his idea is golden. I'm sick of the fact that you are so stupid and blind to Guild Wars mechanics and PvP that I feel obligated and entrusted to lay down some verbal symphonies on this thread, despite hating myself for arguing with someone who feels like his biggest argumental strength is in his idea which we've already shredded into tiny pieces.



This just proves that you have no idea. It makes me wonder that the reason for you to constantly repeat yourself is because you just simply don't understand any of the reasons we've put forth. Moreover, you didn't understand the glyph exploit, where it's pretty bloody obvious that you cast your glyph before you get in range of a mesmer/ranger. Moreover, you never understood why you should interrupt weapons in HA. Moreover, you don't know simple PvP mechanics and player tendencies. You don't understand how to pre prot because apparently you die from 1 KD, so therefore you don't understand your own build/meta game.

All this points to the fact that this is a QQ thread and you, Lursey, need to - to put it simply - get good.

PS. I may have taken it too far with this post, but I don't care. This kid needs to shut up now.

Originally Posted by Reikai

Like I said before, skill cancels can be free/50% if any and all interrupts instantly recharge and gain 100%/50% of all mana back if they fail to interrupt a skill.

BuBu - Counterspell
Counter target spell.

Live with it.

Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

Lursey, you seriously need to learn what a fast cast is. Stop sounding like a broken record and really learn to PvP. What the hell are you doing asking for a change in mechanics if you don't even know how to use a 40/40 set?

I'm r12, g6, c2 and I play backline for most of it. I don't need this shit. I know the ins and outs of Guild Wars mechanics and unlike you I can actually articulate my thoughts into a valid argument.

Reikai isn't suggesting the same as you. Rekai suggests to make both cancelling and rupting exploitable, which makes more sense than your idea of only making cancelling exploitable. If this did happen, things like on-hit effects such as the small damage from a bow and poison spread should not happen and a missed rupt should be seen as a missed shot all together. Otherwise poison/degen spread would be way too easy. The idea of cancelling a rupt is still RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing stupid.

1v1 me in game and I will actually show you proper skill cancelling. You can even make it 2v1 to bring some more damage/KD to replicate a real scenario. I'm sick and tired of you not understanding ANYTHING these last 5 pages.

IGN: Fate Crusher

Originally Posted by lursey

lol pulling rank out.. and your rank is actually lower than mine....

we are talking about skill cancelling.. and you are saying 40/40 set.. you are seriously going to the wrong direction....

you know... 40/40 is by chance....and it doesn't mean you don't have to cast to trigger it

Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

Holy shit, the only reason you cancel cast in PvP in the first place is because your 40/40 set didn't provide you with a fast cast. It just so happens that you can juke rupters in the process. How is this the wrong direction? Oh right, this is because you've completely blanked out all my posts where i've said YOU'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO EXPLOIT CANCELLING SKILLS UNTIL FAST CAST. Do you understand??? it means that no matter what, I can camp on my 40/40 set and cancel my skills UNTIL I GET A GODDAM FAST CAST. Are you that thick that you can't understand this!?!?! How is this any different than the glyph exploit?

Whats the counter to rupts? Fast casts. How are Rits in HA able to get their weapons up if they are getting camped? CANCEL UNTIL FAST CAST. They have e-management and they're not stupid to waste too much energy which means they can do this all match.

And of course I'm pulling out my rank. With every FACT I say, you say I don't know what I'm talking about. I've explained in extra detail in every post with every example to prove to you how wrong your suggestions are, even to give you scenarios of your suggestion and point out flaws because of the exploitable nature of having unlimited cancels.

I'm gonna log into GW now. PM me for that 1v1.

Originally Posted by Reikai

you know what? Cancelling skills should have a manaburn effect like in MTG.

If you cancel a skill you lose an additional 50% of the mana for the skill, AND take the energy lost *10 for damage.

If this was implemented, perhaps rits in HA would be interrupted once in a while.

Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

It's like arguing with baby. If you can't swap to a 40/40 for 1 or 2 spells and then swap back to your shield set, you have no right to say you are higher rank than me. Let me guess, you're the type of person who camps on a high set? l.m.a.o. If you swap to high set, swap back to your regular sets to get your 4 pips of energy back, instead of 2. Only swap to high set when you need to cast, then swap back. This is the same as swapping for 40/40s.

Called you out and you can't even prove your point in-game. Make it 2v1 (1 warrior, 1 mes/ranger vs me), I don't care.

50% won't be unlimited? 4 pips of energy means 4 energy every 3 seconds. With your suggestion, it means you can cancel cast a 5 energy skill (changed to 2) every 1.5 seconds and still maintain full energy. No.... Not unlimited at all.....................

Just LOL at the fact that you claim swapping to a 40/40 is too costly.

Overpowered? Here, I'm going to give you advice on how to improve your argument: Give me an example of how rupting is overpowered.

Originally Posted by lursey

I don't know what point you want to prove with 2v1......is it the same when it goes into a 4v4 situation or a 8v8 situation?

rupting is overpower because 1 skill can counter all skills with casting time in the whole gw....

Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

I'm done with you. If you can't prove me wrong in-game, you have no argument. If you can say "the last mAT was won because they rupted and shut down everything", then maybe Anet should look into the rupt spells. But that wasn't the case at all.
Not a single person on this thread agrees with you, and it's 5 pages long. I've done my best to stay calm with this crap and I even came back to see if I could finally explain to you as planely as possible how idiotic this idea is.

Even if you are trolling or being genuine, you have only made yourself look extremely bad on this forum and will never be taken seriously in discussions. I also have your IGN so if I hear or see anything in-game about you, i'm linking everyone to this shit storm.

I still can't believe you think 40/40 sets have nothing to do with cancelling. rofl.